Julies New Birdroom/Christmas present

[JulieJ]

Wow, my own blog!!!
Here is a picture of my existing set up, which we built in August. I didn't believe you all when you told me I would want a bigger one eventually....but you were right. The birdroom I have now in this set up is really just a little cubby hole for me to escape to with a bottle of wine and a couple of dogs!!! We have started work on a second birdroom now so that I can have a dabble at breeding and also to prevent my first one from getting over crowded (I'm just a girl who can't say "No" - to a budgie!!!!
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/November%202009/DSC01621.jpg
Here are the plans for my second birdroom. It is going inside the carport on the other side of the fence to my aviary. Its going to be 2m wide and 4m long.
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/BirdRoomPlans.jpg
So far, the base has been done, using floor boards and tanalised runners. The back panel has been made with two small windows above the fence line to allow a bit of extra light in
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/DSC01941.jpg
We've bought the rest of the wood, so now I'm just waiting for the next part of the installation to be done (Dave works nights and this is his busy time of year). Watch this space.
By the way, I would appreciate any suggestions etc.

[JulieJ]

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[Barrie Shutt]

Well done Dave and a nice present for you Julie

[Birdys.stirling]

Wow, my own blog!!!
Here is a picture of my existing set up, which we built in August. I didn't believe you all when you told me I would want a bigger one eventually....but you were right. The birdroom I have now in this set up is really just a little cubby hole for me to escape to with a bottle of wine and a couple of dogs!!! We have started work on a second birdroom now so that I can have a dabble at breeding and also to prevent my first one from getting over crowded (I'm just a girl who can't say "No" - to a budgie!!!!
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/November%202009/DSC01621.jpg
Here are the plans for my second birdroom. It is going inside the carport on the other side of the fence to my aviary. Its going to be 2m wide and 4m long.
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/BirdRoomPlans.jpg
So far, the base has been done, using floor boards and tanalised runners. The back panel has been made with two small windows above the fence line to allow a bit of extra light in
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/DSC01941.jpg
We've bought the rest of the wood, so now I'm just waiting for the next part of the installation to be done (Dave works nights and this is his busy time of year). Watch this space.
By the way, I would appreciate any suggestions etc. :http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/DSC01941.jpg

Looking good julie, will be nice when its done

[JulieJ]

Well done Dave and a nice present for you Julie
Because I'm worth it :):D;)

[Birdys.stirling]

Oh and julie, i have put some pictures of my setup on my blog

[JulieJ]

Oh and julie, i have put some pictures of my setup on my blog
Great, going there right now :)

[billyboy]

Its looking so good :)

I wish I had such a super set up .

But never mind I have som nice chicks at the mo. :D

[Tony Peters 69]

Hi Julie, cracking plans and ideas you have there for extending you set up think your going to need it with all them birds lol....... well done on starting your blogg i'll keep intouch to see how things are going, all the very best with it.

Cheers: Tony

[JulieJ]

Its looking so good :)

I wish I had such a super set up .

But never mind I have som nice chicks at the mo. :D

Thanks Bill....I can only hope that one day I will be able to breed a violet as well!!! :)

[JulieJ]

Hi Julie, cracking plans and ideas you have there for extending you set up think your going to need it with all them birds lol....... well done on starting your blogg i'll keep intouch to see how things are going, all the very best with it.

Cheers: Tony

Thanks Tony. It keeps me out of trouble :o

[Tony Peters 69]

Thanks Tony. It keeps me out of trouble :o

Hi Julie you'l be in trouble if you keep getting birds youl be having to put another extention on lol...........

Cheers: Tony

[JulieJ]

Hi Julie you'l be in trouble if you keep getting birds youl be having to put another extention on lol...........

Cheers: Tony
Tony...if I keep taking more birds I think my other half will leave me (he's sick of budgie talk already!!). So I won't need an extension....I'll just get you to board out the garages!!!! See....every cloud has a silver lining :rolleyes:

[Tony Peters 69]

Hi Julie hows thigs going with your new bird and set up hope alls going well?

cheers:Tony

[JulieJ]

Hi Julie hows thigs going with your new bird and set up hope alls going well?

cheers:Tony
Bit of a standstill at the moment Tony....too cold!!! The frame is up now, just need to get a bit more wood for the door frame etc. I'll take another picture soon. :)

[Barrie Shutt]

Bit of a standstill at the moment Tony....too cold!!! The frame is up now, just need to get a bit more wood for the door frame etc. I'll take another picture soon. :)

Could Dave be slacking :D

[JulieJ]

Could Dave be slacking :D

No...bless him, he's been out there for the last few hours working on it....while I've been tucked up in bed with my medicine!!!!:)

[retiredmember]

Very nice Julie and what a wonderful gift

[Birdys.stirling]

Hows the build going julie?

[Birdys.stirling]

Any updates?

[JulieJ]

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/DSC02020.jpg
Bit more done.....need wood for the door and roof now. The indoor flight at the end will have a window on one side and a double wired window instead of glass on the other side, with a shutter so that they have fresh air during the day and warmth at night. It will be pretty sheltered anyway with being under a car port. Going to put polycarbonate roof vents in as well for more ventilation and light.

[JulieJ]

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/BirdRoomPlans.jpg

[retiredmember]

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/BirdRoomPlans.jpg

Very nice indeed Julie and the best things come to those who wait on good planning :D

[Birdys.stirling]

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/DSC02020.jpg
Bit more done.....need wood for the door and roof now. The indoor flight at the end will have a window on one side and a double wired window instead of glass on the other side, with a shutter so that they have fresh air during the day and warmth at night. It will be pretty sheltered anyway with being under a car port. Going to put polycarbonate roof vents in as well for more ventilation and light.

Dvae has been busy:)

[Birdys.stirling]

How are trace's chicks doing? Any pics?:D

[Barrie Shutt]

looking good Julie

[JulieJ]

How are trace's chicks doing? Any pics?:D
Trace's chicks are doing really well. They went outside today for the first time and loved it. Will get some photos soon. I've told her to STOP breeding.....I haven't got room for any more!!!!:)

[Birdys.stirling]

Trace's chicks are doing really well. They went outside today for the first time and loved it. Will get some photos soon. I've told her to STOP breeding.....I haven't got room for any more!!!!:)

Did you say that or did dave?:D

[JulieJ]

Did you say that or did dave?:D
Well I said it actually.....but I know he was thinking it!!! I've got some lovely birds now with great markings so I'm looking forward to experimenting with some pairings when the bird room is up and running!!:)

[Birdys.stirling]

Well I said it actually.....but I know he was thinking it!!! I've got some lovely birds now with great markings so I'm looking forward to experimenting with some pairings when the bird room is up and running!!:)

You may have already said it but i have forgot, are you keeping the flight what you have now as well as the birdroom?

[JulieJ]

You may have already said it but i have forgot, are you keeping the flight what you have now as well as the birdroom?
Yes, the flight I have now is really just the inside part of a garden aviary. My new flight will be for housing any chicks I breed (until I can bring myself to part with them!!!) Also I've got one or two birds in my aviary that hardly ever go outside, so I think I'll move them into the new birdroom and make more room in the aviary!!!
I keep meaning to ask you what make your webcam set up is? I know you bought some of it off ebay. I'm going to get something similar set up eventually, so it will be good to know what to get:)

[Birdys.stirling]

The pan tilt one is a hawking and the other black one is an edimax, i just search for ip camera or network camera on ebay, and just search for used items

[JulieJ]

The pan tilt one is a hawking and the other black one is an edimax, i just search for ip camera or network camera on ebay, and just search for used items
You've done well setting it all up.....I'm not very good at technical stuff, will have to sit down with a clear head and try to work it out!!!:)

[Birdys.stirling]

You've done well setting it all up.....I'm not very good at technical stuff, will have to sit down with a clear head and try to work it out!!!:)

Yeah, the only thinig is you would need to run a network cable out to your aviary/birdroom. I have one wireless camera but i can't set the wireless up its to complicated for me so have wired it in. Then you just log into the camera using internet explorer, and just set the settings that it need, but it mainly just plug and play;)

[Birdys.stirling]

How is the build going?:)

[Birdys.stirling]

Come on any updates?:D

[JulieJ]

Oh okay!!! Been out and taken a few today, here goes..
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Frontviewwithshutteropen.jpg
This one is the front of the shed. The far end is going to be the flight area, and as there will be no outside flight (selfish husband says he wants SOME of the carport left!!), we have double wired a panel to give them some fresh air during the day, this photo shows the panel with the shutter closed.
This one shows the shutter open...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Doublewiredpanel.jpg
The end panel (leading onto driveway) has a window with a shutter to prevent headlights disturbing the birds and for a little more privacy...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/SideViewwithshutterclosed.jpg
And with shutter open...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Sideviewwithshutteropen.jpg
Flight area - yet to be wired etc...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Flightarea.jpg
Extractor fan in top windows at back of shed...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/ExtractorFan.jpg

[JulieJ]

Started to assemble kitchen units yesterday. Tiled floor throughout...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Tiledfloor.jpg
This will be where I have six wire cages on top of the units. They will be facing the flight area..
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Kitchenunitsbeingassembled.jpg

[Barrie Shutt]

It looks very impressive Julie , well done all.

[JulieJ]

It looks very impressive Julie , well done all.
I learned from a master Barrie :D

[Birdys.stirling]

Oh okay!!! Been out and taken a few today, here goes..
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Frontviewwithshutteropen.jpg
This one is the front of the shed. The far end is going to be the flight area, and as there will be no outside flight (selfish husband says he wants SOME of the carport left!!), we have double wired a panel to give them some fresh air during the day, this photo shows the panel with the shutter closed.
This one shows the shutter open...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Doublewiredpanel.jpg
The end panel (leading onto driveway) has a window with a shutter to prevent headlights disturbing the birds and for a little more privacy...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/SideViewwithshutterclosed.jpg
And with shutter open...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Sideviewwithshutteropen.jpg
Flight area - yet to be wired etc...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Flightarea.jpg
Extractor fan in top windows at back of shed...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/ExtractorFan.jpg

Took your time

Very nice julie, will be nice and bright in there

[Birdys.stirling]

Started to assemble kitchen units yesterday. Tiled floor throughout...
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Tiledfloor.jpg
This will be where I have six wire cages on top of the units. They will be facing the flight area..
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac295/JulieJenkinsphotos/Building%20Second%20Birdroom/Kitchenunitsbeingassembled.jpg

Very nice, even got a fancy pattern on the tiles, mine just got the basic, and simple option:D

[JulieJ]

Very nice, even got a fancy pattern on the tiles, mine just got the basic, and simple option:D
Thanks Shaun!!! It worked out easier with the size of the tiles to do them diagonally!! Can't wait to start using it!!!:)

[Birdys.stirling]

Thanks Shaun!!! It worked out easier with the size of the tiles to do them diagonally!! Can't wait to start using it!!!:)

I can't wait to see the bird in there:D

How are your chicks doing?

[JulieJ]

I can't wait to see the bird in there:D

How are your chicks doing?
Thee of them now Shaun. Would you mind having a look at the thread? I've posted a picture today. The first one has a big crop which seems to have milk in but not sure if there is too much air there as well:confused:

[eve]

Gosh, Julie! I can see why you haven't been posting so much lately.

This is a great space! Beautiful, in fact!

Such a healthy-looking place to put budgies. I'm grateful......for them; and jealous...........for me. :) You've done a great job, and I feel so comfortable (hard to describe) with your tastes (see the gardening items on the side of your carport(?) and the plants in the hothouse boxes and hanging plants that are so familiar to a fellow gardener. It's like looking at what my ideal budgie home would look like. Maybe we're brothers????
:p

What a nice cohesive plan you have there.

Quite a nice place!!

[JulieJ]

Gosh, Julie! I can see why you haven't been posting so much lately.

This is a great space! Beautiful, in fact!

Such a healthy-looking place to put budgies. I'm grateful......for them; and jealous...........for me. :) You've done a great job, and I feel so comfortable (hard to describe) with your tastes (see the gardening items on the side of your carport(?) and the plants in the hothouse boxes and hanging plants that are so familiar to a fellow gardener. It's like looking at what my ideal budgie home would look like. Maybe we're brothers????
:p

What a nice cohesive plan you have there.

Quite a nice place!!
Thanks Eve!! We built our garden aviary last summer with just a small bird room, only big enough for two breeding cages, and I realised that I needed more space and an "overflow" flight to avoid overcrowding in the garden birdroom!!! It will be great having washing facilites in the birdroom as it will free up my utility room in the house, which is always full of dishes and trays etc ready to be washed!!! I'm going to have the two birdrooms running at the same time (twice the work!!!):)

[Birdys.stirling]

Thee of them now Shaun. Would you mind having a look at the thread? I've posted a picture today. The first one has a big crop which seems to have milk in but not sure if there is too much air there as well:confused:

Great news, will have a look for it

[Barrie Shutt]

No panic Julie it will do in the morning

[Richard Scott]

The black cab brought back some memories Julie. My dad is a cabbie and i can remember going to the shows as a junior in it.
Why are taxi drivers so handy? My dad could turn his hand to anything as well!!!!
The DIY gene must have skipped me:o

Looks fantastic.

[JulieJ]

The black cab brought back some memories Julie. My dad is a cabbie and i can remember going to the shows as a junior in it.
Why are taxi drivers so handy? My dad could turn his hand to anything as well!!!!
The DIY gene must have skipped me:o

Looks fantastic.
Thanks Richard, it will be great when its done!! I'm lucky because Dave can do ANYTHING, so we never have to pay to get work done!! My dad was an engineer and he could do anything also, and I'm quite good at planning things so we don't do so badly!! I bet your dad tells you some funny stories....I get my ear chewed off at 5am most mornings when he comes home !!!!:D

[Lorna & Alan]

Thanks Richard, it will be great when its done!! I'm lucky because Dave can do ANYTHING, so we never have to pay to get work done!! My dad was an engineer and he could do anything also, and I'm quite good at planning things so we don't do so badly!! I bet your dad tells you some funny stories....I get my ear chewed off at 5am most mornings when he comes home !!!!:D

Too much information Julie :D:eek: Seriously though thats the last thing you need at 5am :rolleyes:
Birdroom does look great and these men of ours do come in handy at times. Hope you are as good a project manager as I was ;)

[Tony Peters 69]

Hi Julie, your set up is comming on great now all looks to be falling in place and moving along, some great photos of your set up, I think your right in were your putting your breeding cages I no you was flicking between ideas of were to have them but it gives you more room,
I think your showning off now coz Im not even started yet lol.....
Am made up for you your not far off now bet you carnt wait to put your birds in and spend all your spare time in there.
Good luck with the rest of the work keep the photos comming,

Cheers: Tony

[retiredmember]

Looking great Julie, can't wait for the introduction of the birds

[JulieJ]

Too much information Julie :D:eek: Seriously though thats the last thing you need at 5am :rolleyes:
Birdroom does look great and these men of ours do come in handy at times. Hope you are as good a project manager as I was ;)
Oops...just realised what you mean there Lorna!!! Can't believe I missed that one!!! I hope I'm as good as breeding birds as you are too:D

[Richard Scott]

Thanks Richard, it will be great when its done!! I'm lucky because Dave can do ANYTHING, so we never have to pay to get work done!! My dad was an engineer and he could do anything also, and I'm quite good at planning things so we don't do so badly!! I bet your dad tells you some funny stories....I get my ear chewed off at 5am most mornings when he comes home !!!!:D

Did notice the directors chair in the corner. :D

[JulieJ]

Did notice the directors chair in the corner. :D
Ah...yes...I like a bit of comfort when I'm giving my orders :D

[retiredmember]

Ah...yes...I like a bit of comfort when I'm giving my orders :D

Where did the crown go to your majesty :D

[JulieJ]

Where did the crown go to your majesty :D
One of my surfs stole it:D

[retiredmember]

One of my surfs stole it:D

Send Dave out to buy a new crown for you :D :p

[JulieJ]

Send Dave out to buy a new crown for you :D :p
I'm having him beheaded later today because he's just not getting it done quickly enough:D

[Lorna & Alan]

I'm having him beheaded later today because he's just not getting it done quickly enough:D

He he - that's sure to get him running around like a headless chicken Julie - boom boom ! :D

That was my problem too - so good at doing the work but difficult to pin 'em down :rolleyes: I just tempt him with a bottle of Grouse Father Jack style when something needs doing !!!

[JulieJ]

He he - that's sure to get him running around like a headless chicken Julie - boom boom ! :D

That was my problem too - so good at doing the work but difficult to pin 'em down :rolleyes: I just tempt him with a bottle of Grouse Father Jack style when something needs doing !!!
I'm just praying that the bad weather continues because he is a keen cyclist and whenever we get a half decent day he is out on his bike for ages and not much gets done!!! My rain dances seem to be working pretty well at the moment :D

[retiredmember]

I'm having him beheaded later today because he's just not getting it done quickly enough:D

I'm off i'm not being a witness :D

[retiredmember]

I'm just praying that the bad weather continues because he is a keen cyclist and whenever we get a half decent day he is out on his bike for ages and not much gets done!!! My rain dances seem to be working pretty well at the moment :D

Your definately sharing your secrets today Julie :eek:

[JulieJ]

Your definately sharing your secrets today Julie :eek:
You must all have mucky minds!!!;)

[retiredmember]

You must all have mucky minds!!!;)

Well I do as I'm a man but not speaking for Lorna, she may get angry :D

[Lorna & Alan]

Lol :D I didnt recognise the expression

( "I hope I'm not chewing your ear off" or "Let me know if I'm chewing your ear off." It basically refers to someone talking a lot. )

My bad :rolleyes:

[JulieJ]

Lol :D I didnt recognise the expression

( "I hope I'm not chewing your ear off" or "Let me know if I'm chewing your ear off." It basically refers to someone talking a lot. )

My bad :rolleyes:
Well Lorna, I don't suppose you would expect someone to get their ear chewed off at 5am (in the metaphorical way) would you:D

[JulieJ]

After looking at Andrew Luke's fantastic birdroom on his website (can't wait for my turn of the DVD) I've decided to have opening rooflights in the bird room. Much moaning and groaning from the other half but its been started. I think its a good idea as it will allow a bit more ventilation without compromising on security (there is only a six inch gap between the roof of the birdroom and the carport roof). They are going to be positioned over the sink area so that they are not directly over any cages so the sun doesn't shine directly on the birds. Dave's not well today, he thinks its Swine Flu (I think its a sore throat and a bit of a headache) so I don't think much will get done today :rolleyes:

[Tony Peters 69]

Hi Julie, your bird room looks well and well planed out too, think its a good idea the way you have set up the roof lights as you say you can open them for fresh air but you still have the security. Good luck with it and hope you get it finished off soon the clubs always looking for a new bird room to visit.

Cheers: Tony

[Barrie Shutt]

Hi Julie, your bird room looks well and well planed out too, think its a good idea the way you have set up the roof lights as you say you can open them for fresh air but you still have the security. Good luck with it and hope you get it finished off soon the clubs always looking for a new bird room to visit.

Cheers: Tony

Are you picking tips up Tony :D

[Tony Peters 69]

Are you picking tips up Tony :D
tell you what Barrie I HAVE YES but dont tell Julie, plenty of tips worth having, between you and Julie and the tiler I think am sorted mate.

Cheers: Tony

[retiredmember]

tell you what Barrie I HAVE YES but dont tell Julie, plenty of tips worth having, between you and Julie and the tiler I think am sorted mate.

Cheers: Tony

Thats the way it should be Tony, my birdroom ideas all came from hours of going through this forum mate

[Tony Peters 69]

Thats the way it should be Tony, my birdroom ideas all came from hours of going through this forum mate

yes I no every little tip is always handy to have they all help in some way, even the bacon butties lol...................

Chers: Tony

[retiredmember]

yes I no every little tip is always handy to have they all help in some way, even the bacon butties lol...................

Chers: Tony

Have to agree with that lol

[Tony Peters 69]

Good morning Julie and all, hope your all ok, well done on ringing your chicks Julie there looking well to me. Another 2 to do and you'l be an expert at it then dont forget your goggles this time lol.......

Cheers: Tony

[JulieJ]

Good morning Julie and all, hope your all ok, well done on ringing your chicks Julie there looking well to me. Another 2 to do and you'l be an expert at it then dont forget your goggles this time lol.......

Cheers: Tony
Just you wait until you are as old as me and need reading glasses!!!:eek:

[retiredmember]

Just you wait until you are as old as me and need reading glasses!!!:eek:

Reading glasses at the fine age of 30 Julie things are going wrong in this world :D

[JulieJ]

Reading glasses at the fine age of 30 Julie things are going wrong in this world :D
I knew there was a reason why I like you Joe :D

[retiredmember]

I knew there was a reason why I like you Joe :D

You've got to say the right things at the right time Julie :D

[JulieJ]

You've got to say the right things at the right time Julie :D
I suppose getting married does teach you men a thing or two about women doesn't it??? Actually I'm still waiting for Dave to learn a thing or two......we'll have to see if there is a card waiting for me tomorrow.......:rolleyes:

[retiredmember]

I suppose getting married does teach you men a thing or two about women doesn't it??? Actually I'm still waiting for Dave to learn a thing or two......we'll have to see if there is a card waiting for me tomorrow.......:rolleyes:

Ha Ha hope so for his sake, I went to a shop to get a new diary the other day (used electronic one to date) and while I was there I got a really good valentine card for Lorraine, so us men need to be on the ball and our women will give us loads of peace if we are :D

[JulieJ]

Have you seen the signature on Lornas posts? It says something like "If you treat your wife like a thoroughbred you will not end up with a nag" - and I always smile when I see that.
I quite like the old saying of May West (oops - you won't remember her....)
"A husband is like a fire - if left unattended he goes out"......hmmmm......:rolleyes:

[retiredmember]

Have you seen the signature on Lornas posts? It says something like "If you treat your wife like a thoroughbred you will not end up with a nag" - and I always smile when I see that.
I quite like the old saying of May West (oops - you won't remember her....)
"A husband is like a fire - if left unattended he goes out"......hmmmm......:rolleyes:

Quote city today Julie, maybe you should include a quote of the day in your blog, you appear to have mastered it :D

[JulieJ]

I think the rest of my quotes are too rude to go on the forum Joe!!! :eek:

[retiredmember]

I think the rest of my quotes are too rude to go on the forum Joe!!! :eek:

Thats why I don't reply with quotes Julie :D

[Tony Peters 69]

Hi Julie and Joe hope your both ok plenty of witty quotes to read there, glad to see you your chick are doing well Julie, good luck with the rest of the ringing,

cheers: Tony